Originally Posted by
TNDeltaFlyboy
I had my last CP visit like you refer to on Wednesday. I was told doesn't matter if you're airborne or on the ground, the moment you cross 400 you're off probation. The only other thing he said that takes place is some paperwork we never see happen.
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Not sure how you could do it on the ground since the 400 hours is just block time, but I get the point, thanks.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
You are contractually off at the 400 hour point. For any new hire out there keep in mind that the standard for termination is not any different on or off probation. The company must have cause. Delta has one of the lowest if not the very lowest overall termination rate. In many years it's zero.
In general I agree but there are specific circumstances where you want to be off probation. Pretty sure the standard for termination in training is different if you're on probation. While low threat and most of us get nothing but good reviews, nobody likes being graded on every single flight, that goes away once off probation (also pretty sure most captains don't like filling out the paperwork). You also get to vote on the contract once off probation.
Originally Posted by
RJcursed4life
What are these Chief Pilot meetings like?
How long is it Taking guys to reach 400 hours?
Thanks
Mine weren't too bad, all the CPs were friendly and seemed genuinely happy about having new hires around. They went over all the reports your captains have been writing. All 3 devoted some time to sick leave. Had a couple oddball questions.
1. On my 1st meeting right after OE with the grand total of 2 trips under my belt, the CP talked to me about his concern with DAL pilots taxiing too slowly. That was really weird.
2. On my 2nd meeting I was asked about reserve in NYC (even though I already had a line). The CP was pretty out of touch on how difficult it was for somebody in a Kew Gardens crash pad to get to EWR. He had no idea how much it cost or how long it took. I got the feeling I should've just said 'reserve is awesome, no problems at all'. That said, as far as I can tell there have been no negative impacts to my job for having spoken the truth.
3. I know it probably wasn't their intent, but based on the significant amount of time dedicated to sick leave during these meetings, I'd bet many guys on probation are scared to use sick leave. I never got sick so it never came up, but unless I was at death's door I probably would've flown sick.
Time to 400 hours depends entirely on airframe and schedule. I'll make it to 400 hours 10 months from my date of hire. For me that was 3 months INDOC, sims, and OE, 2 months of reserve with very little flying, and 5 months flying the line.
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Originally Posted by
Dodo

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