Originally Posted by
wt932051

The comair guys are the ones who should be insulted by guys like you. You have done nothing!
I picked an airline not knowing what I was getting into and have tried to improve it along the way to leave it better then I started. I voted no on the last contract. I made the decision not to go to Freedom and lower the bar. Mesa wanted a 5 percent pay cut during bankruptcy, I said no putting all our jobs/seats on the line. You also forget I had less options then you did today. It is true, I want my decade to mean something, that is right, I want to leave this place better. It is you who are making it worse. So yes I have actually done something.
Besides I am assuming you voted yes at your last airline (since you are voting yes already here) only to have the senior guys vote no and you got furloughed. So you are probably hurt that you couldn't work for less, in trade for job security, and take flying from other airlines just to keep your job. You are just doing it here again because you are selfish. Scared you might actually have to be an FO and work under the wages voted in from the last newbies who helped vote it in, and who were after that fast upgrade as well, that traded pay for it.
I have realized the new guys are the cancer in my time in aviation. The pay rates are what they are now because of the new guys we had at that time voting yes. It is happening again. So it is your fault. Guys like you are the same ones who go to GO jets, PSA, and were Freedom A listers. So I will patronize the new guys all I want because they complain about the low pay, yet they created. Stop your complaining about the pay. You did this. Accept it.
One day you will be on the other end trying to improve your airline only to have the new guys undercutting you just for an upgrade. Remember that. I don't think you have any idea what sacrifice means. In your response you state instead of raising the bar, you decided to sell out. You realized it was better for you. That is not sacrifice, that is selfishness. Yet you say I am the one not using it accurately? Wow. Keep trying to sugar coat that turd you are trying to sell. lol
So, let me try to follow your logic here: by accepting a spot in a Mesa new hire class, a person is a sellout. But once they've put up with the same payrates/contract/working conditions for some arbitrary number of years (as you have), they miraculously transform into a patriot (like you)--who has sacrificed it all in a glorious battle to raise the bar for all regionals for the rest of eternity?
At what arbitrary number of years of service under the existing contract does a new hire transform from a "sellout" to a person who has "sacrificed" like you? A year? Five years? Ten years?
You worked for Mesa for a decade. Yeah, it was a rough decade (for all of us--at all airlines). Get over it and move on with your life.