part 135 , citations 550's and 650's, And what I ment are the newbies get that shiny jet syndrome. I've seen it dozens of times, hell I had it 10 yrs ago. my first trip was a real eye opener. One capt. used to joke , the reason we have two FMS's in the plane is so I can set one up 20NM behind cause thats how far back you are. But I was 27 years old and mature enough to realize I didnt know as much , or was ready to take on as much as I thought. unlike lowtime young brand new comm. pilots