Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Not really sure what you are asking. There is a 15 consecutive day requirement to verify in contract 2012 improved from 7 in prior contracts. In all the contracts the company can ask for verification on a good faith basis for any illness and a medical records release.
The medical records release has been widely stated to be new to TA15.
You don't really see what I'm asking? Here it is.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
You overlook that the sick leave change most vilified on here is the medical records release. That was agreed to in contract 2001 and is in effect right now. A group intentially attributed that to TA 15 and played it up as a massive concession when it's been in effect since 2001.
Originally Posted by
newKnow
Were medical records subject to be released after 24/56 sick days in a rolling 365/1095 day period, before the failed TA? .....
.....So, is the "medical release threshold" and the triggers associated with it, a new concept, or not?
If so, it was an important change from what we have now.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
The 2001.contract required a pilot to release his medical records after 7 consecutive days on sick status. There were fewer protections in that release and who could see it.
Originally Posted by
newKnow
Is that provision in effect with the contract we are operating under right now?
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Yes, however we improved it to 15 days in contract 2012 but added that the medical records release would apply to any trip the company required verification on in addition to the 15 day rule. Not sure which is better.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
No, the contract today is 15 days in a calendar year not rolling. The contract is available online....
All along you have been saying there was a 15 day trigger for the company to possibly ask us for the release of our medical records. You even reprimanded Howgozit for confusing verification with the release of medical records:
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Read what I posted carefully.ni am discussing the requirement to release medical records. You are discussing verification of individual rotations.
But, now all of a sudden, you say there is a 15 day requirement to verify. Well yes. I've been saying that all along.
How about the 15 consecutive day trigger for the medical release? You said it here:
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
The 2001.contract required a pilot to release his medical records after 7 consecutive days on sick status. There were fewer protections in that release and who could see it.
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
Yes, however we improved it to 15 days in contract 2012 but added that the medical records release would apply to any trip the company required verification on in addition to the 15 day rule. Not sure which is better.
Where is it in our contract?
