Originally Posted by
Flying Elvis
OK, in case nobody has said this yet... it's not all about the pay.
Scope concessions were going to take money out of pilot pay/benefits, reduce pilot opportunities, and reduce future staffing needs.
Sick leave concessions were going to to take money out of pilot pay/benefits, reduce pilot opportunities, and reduce future staffing needs.
OE bidding concessions were going to to take money out of pilot pay/benefits, reduce pilot opportunities, and reduce future staffing needs.
ALV concessions were going to to take money out of pilot pay/benefits, reduce pilot opportunities, and reduce future staffing needs.
Then of course, there were many other Easter eggs. One of my favorites was the side agreement that would transfer ACA excise tax burden from the company to the pilots. Of course, before the vote I was told by DALPA officials that this would affect only a small percentage of pilots (which wasn't true), but in the MEC missive of yesterday they now say it will be every ALPA member by 2022 (which also isn't true, but it makes good rhetoric).
How much were all these concessions going to affect us? We don't know, but I'm betting dollars to donuts that the company's actuarials had a good estimate.
My WAGs for staffing impacts alone were 180 for OE and 120 for ALV. If we prognosticate that Scope and Sick Leave intimidation would each yield a 1% increase in "efficiency/productivity," that's another 240 fewer pilots needed. So maybe around 500 fewer pilots needed because we were going to work harder?
I'm thankful for the older pilots especially who didn't screw the younger/junior ones by prostituting themselves for a pay raise.
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
I'm thankful for the younger pilots who taught us old farts how to use and read social media so the truth could come out. If DALPA had gotten away with disseminating only the information they wanted us to have, this thing would have passed. It was a great team effort across the seniority list and I couldn't be more proud of my fellow Delta pilots.
We have a lot more work to do in order to clean up the huge mess that the church of Moak created and the incompetence of Donatelli has now left us.
Carl
Carl, the thread is about fact checking. I know you have read the TA yet you quote in your reply a bunch of incorrect facts. Why?
-ALV is unchanged
-the switch to block hours depending on fleet mix at most will cost us a handful of jobs and may result in a gain. The switch to a 1.81 block hour ratio adds around 720 jobs at 12 crews per domestic airframe.
-the forum states there is zero sick abuse. The changes should therefore have no effect.
-the medical plan change effects only 1 plan. (DPMP used by a small percentage of pilots). It would go into effect only if the plan exceeds the Cadillac tax threshold and every dollar saved has to be returned to the pilots.
-There were job gains in areas not mentioned including training pay and reroute.