I look at it like this, if they want me to fly overtime, they can pay me for overtime. If they don't want to pay me at the time, I'll go to the hotel and get my add pay the next day when I'm getting 150% for flying on a day off. I don't look at it as go/no go based on fatigue. To me it's much more basic. I'm an hourly employee. How many other unionized hourly employees work extra hours in a day for nothing? Your schedule has a set time it ends the moment it's in your line. Extra hours at work should pay extra.

Fatigue to me is it's own entity. If I'm fatigued I stop the train. Hell if I have a half winger who's fatigued and nervous about rocking the boat, it instantly fatigues me.