Originally Posted by
APC225
Sorry, I wasn't jumping on you. I had a perfectly good unused self-righteous speech saved up and I just decided to use it.
The 30-minute extension approval is the FAA's ruling. An FSAP is not required by the FAA. We've done nothing wrong and they don't need to be told something they already know. But it is required by the company in order get paid. If they want safety data points for refusals of less than 30 minutes that's simple to pull from scheduling records, they don't need our FSAPs for it. It's harassment pure and simple (perhaps because the FAA ruling came in response to a question from John McFadden, Captain,
United Airlines. https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...rpretation.pdf)
I've refused the extensions and not filed FSAPs because there weren't pay issues. No one cared. Just out of curiosity though, next time I refuse an extension I will file an FSAP that simply says I was not fatigued but simply chose not to continue working past the FAR 117 table. Will be interesting to see if they respond any differently than me saying I was fatigued.
I plan to do the same with the addition of "This FSAP is a company required harassment policy required for pay. Had I chosen to waive my FAR 117 duty limit and put my self and crew in a possible fatigue situation that led to mistakes, those could possibly treated as willful violations and not covered by the FSAP program. Safety in all things at all times, at least that's what the company told me as a new hire. Now add the caviat, unless it costs too much."