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Old 08-15-2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Are you saying you would re-vote in our current contract? That's all crossing out 3-4 paragraphs would effectively do. FO pay is less than a dollar raise. $0.29 raise for 2nd year FOs and I think $0.20 for 3rd year FOs. Captain pay isn't really increased either. Our basis for negotiation should be 700 pay at 700 rates and 175/900 pay at 79 seat pay effective now and increasing a decent amount for the next 5 years. Don't spend all that extra money in one place!

The only appreciable increase in pay comes from elimination of 50 seat base pay, which JO should be embarrassed about anyway for his redefining of the word stingy. Same with KCM. Those shouldn't even be points of negotiation or considered wins for the negotiating committee. Those are bare bones standard rewrites of definitions and closing of loopholes management has boned us with, not an increase in anything.

So where are we at? No realized gains (even some losses) in the reserve language, a lot of vagueness that the company will exploit, and no real pay raises.

Why am I going to vote this in again? How much more money will be in my pocket each year if we vote it in vs not? I'll tell you what, my principles and standing for who we are and what we are worth as professional aviators are worth far more than what that (small) number would be.
My hope was that we would all go up to the current CRJ900 pay scale immediately and get incremental raises after that. What we got is 4 years just to bring everyone up to the current 900 scale. That sucks but I would have at least entertained it in exchange for big QOL improvements. But I'm not seeing any improvements there are simply too many loopholes. If I could eliminate the loopholes and maybe add some stronger language we might have something to work with but that's purely hypothetical. Anyway the point is we have what we have and will have to vote up or down on the whole package the way it is currently written, not the way we wish it was written. -And yes the FO pay is crap.