I agree this TA has major shortcomings. But before I jump on the burn it down bandwagon I think there needs to be a sober discussion about where we go from here and what can realistically be obtained after another 2 or 3 years of negotiations. There are some good things like dropping reserve days and aggressive open time pick up for reserves. Do we want to throw it all out for several more years of status quo? -That is a rhetorical question, I'm not advocating one way or the other. Either way we have several more weeks until a vote. If you've already made up your mind that's great, but it doesn't mean the discussion is over. I admit I was pretty depressed when I saw this TA but maybe it's just because of the reality of our situation. Like someone else said we aren't Delta.