Originally Posted by
airspeed1974
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Sitting in the cockpit, in ORD, La Garbage, or Heathrow, pull out your smartphone and record 30 seconds of video. That video will show hundreds of people, ground support equipment, safety equipment. It is seemingly strewn everywhere. Some moving randomly, some probably hasn't moved in 8 years. They are like garbage dumps.
The Hold Short line has a lineup of 15 jets, all burning gas.
So its better to sit there in BJ, SH, or HZ delayed EVERY single day for 2-6 hours? Its better to takeoff from 36R in BJ only to go into holding 10 mins after takeoff? Or how about step climb and descend 20 times for a 2 hour flight wasting fuel and constant throttle movements because of all these changes.
Or lets descend at 3000FPM 200 miles from the airport for traffic thats 100 kilometers away SAME direction. Yea, efficiency at its finest....
Go to the vast majority of Chinese airports. There are aircraft on the ramp. If the aircraft is going somewhere soon, there are 3 or 4 baggage handlers loading bags, and then they completely disappear. Including ALL of their equipment. The fueler fuels, and completely disappears. There is probably only 1 tug in use (supertug), for the whole airport. 2 if there are 2 runways.
The ramp is quiet, sedate, and nearly empty. It is almost like the airport is closed.
OMG, quiet? Pls show me one place that is quiet in China except UNDERWATER!!!
One tug can push back enough aircraft fast enough to feed one runway. If you work for a Chinese airline, once you push back, you will not come to a stop until you lineup on the runway, 75% of the time.
Your right, you will just have 90 degree offcourse diversions, orbits, and the worst vectoring ever...
All of this is done with the smallest number of ground staff you have ever seen at an airport.
Yes who totally block the plane when your trying to come out. ALA CHINESE FIRE DRILL
It was, by far, the leanest, smoothest, most reliable operation I have ever been involved with in aviation. I have never seen anything like it, before, or since. UAL, and US airports are 3rd world by comparison.
What planet are you on man? Words like smoothest, reliable do NOT belong in CHINESE AVIATION. How about INEFFICIENCY, EXPEDITE, NEGATIVE, OFFSET, MAKE ORBIT, TIME NOT DETERMINED, FLOW CONTROL, yea thats more like the China i know.
US Airports are 3rd world? Really? Next time you are at Shenzhen on taxiway C1 for RWY 15 please tell me who had the retarded idea of putting the amber lights BEHIND the HOLD SHORT LINE....creating an easy mistake if you do not happen to see the line and EXPECT it to be where the lights are when they are actually after the line!!!!
But they run an aviation system to the highest level I have ever seen, at least in some ways.