Originally Posted by eaglefly

That may have been its foundation, but it was known that an 1113 hadn't been filed, only threatened. Despite the scams, shams, claims, pleading and threatening, the pilots were responsible for collectively failing to see that B.S. for what it was and thus took their place in the long list of pilots I'm talking about. That list's hallmark is accepting everything you're told, capitulating without question and rationalizing that capitulation after the fact. Envoy pilots aren't alone in that club and soon RAH pilots will join them.

You'll note that this club is completely devoid of any winners. It only has losers defending why they lost before the game even began. Again, it is why those at regionals have virtually no hope of ever changing their economic reality. It's even sadder when many of those pilots will not make it to a legacy or why many who do, will almost certainly repeat the same mistakes at the legacy as they do at the regional. They will be in good company at some legacies too. Pilots always have and will always be their own worst enemy, management just exploits that reality successfully.