I think we have some great CS people at our stations who do a fantastic job. I don't know enough about their compensation compared to their peers to say what raises they should get, though.

I was speaking to the compensation and qol of the pilots. Compensation wise, I think our pay is fine, I thought the pay in package #1 was ok, and even what we had before was better than plenty in the industry. Like most of us here, sure I'd always like a wage increase, but I was paying the bills ok before the package came out.

My issue, and what caused my "out of touch" comments, was in regards to quality of life. Let me know if you would to have a back and forth discussion here regarding PBS CN pairings, "pairing removed due to line constraints" issues, pairing mix changing dramatically from 1, 2, and 3 days to 4 day trips, decreased or nonexistent reserve staffing [which causes zero ability to modify our schedules for things that pop up when we're scheduled to be out of town for days at a time], and inability to stack trips.

I've been here 10 years now, far less than a lot of the guys here who have really seen the decline in qol from the haydays. But the novelty of travelling has long since worn off, and meanwhile I'm expected to spend much more time and many more nights on the road than I used to.