I dont know where you get your BS (cujo)R.I. but with Parker, Kirby, and Isomm all saying a net loss of 41-43 mainline aircraft next year due to defered deliveries and parking of older birds and the chance that the SLI will be somewhere close to done so they can start moving aircraft around I'd believe the original 170-180 flows next year max!!! not to mention the expected 200 or so undefers that have until May to make their choice. that still has the flow at over 16 years by the end of year. The only highlight of New York closing is you don't have a vote anymore!!!!