We will get what we collectively believe we are worth.

For some reason, Delta has a culture where they know the great position they are in to negotiate, and they have chosen to stand up and proceed on the 'road less traveled', which is full of uncertainty, for the sense of value they provide to their company. Did their MEC and roadshows warn them that voting the TA down was a very bad idea? Of course. That's what roadshows are all about. Just wait for ours - the dissenting 30-50% will be beaten down to accept this is as good as it gets, or we will be risking the loss of everything we have ever had. From what I understand, ALPA was almost threatening when the notion of rejecting the TA came up (nothing like fear of the unknown to motivate the masses). That's what the roadshows are all about. As I have repeatedly said, I was at ALPA roadshows that sold PBS to a crew force willing to fully trust their leadership. The results after implementation were disastrous to QOL.

I hope our young guys here realize what we have lost, at the most prime time in negotiations we will likely ever see. And I hope that our guys here with 15-20+ years realize this is not what they have earned. From what I understand out on the line, this TA has the feel of 65% voting yes. It's as if all the guys who voted NO in the last 3 opportunities for improvements, have been beaten down to feel, "this is as good as it gets", and now guys in my seniority range, have taken their spot. I completely get it though, after 5 more years of hub turning, and no significant improvements (in my personal opinion), I will probably be numbed to this as well and feel, well... it's as good as it gets here, or - these concessions don't apply to me, so I just don't care.

My appreciation for the collective fortitude of the Delta pilot group has doubled in the last 3 days of discussions on this forum.

This is what we believe we are worth.