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Old 08-31-2015 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
It's critical to note that this litmus can change drastically over a fairly short period of time. 12-18 months from now despite Envoy's present staffing situation or any efforts Envoy management makes to maintain that...
So that is your argument? Things can change. In that case, I'd like to offer another ridiculous argument that the physical laws governing lift may also cease to exist and THEN WE'LL ALL BE OUT OF A JOB! Of course things can change. That would be the case at any carrier in any situation.


Given that fact that the title of this threat is about 100% of the newhires at AA will come from the wholly owned carriers. The point of Cujo's arguments is that as it becomes harder to attract pilots to envoy, the company will use new equipment (growth) and flow (movement and long term career progression) as an incentive to attract new blood to their regional carriers. AA can offer whatever it needs to in order to keep the newhires coming that the likes of SKW, RAH, XJet etc cannot.

So yes, things can change but I think they will only change for the better for a regional carriers whose parent company has everything to gain by changing things in their favor. The CEO of that company having already stated that they will do just that, helps as well. In fact, in his words, "The quickest way to get to AA will be through envoy." While I will concede that they could better implement this program, the fact remains that envoy have consistently flowed envoy pilots over to AA for the last few years. In the last 24 months, that flow has gone from 20+ year envoy pilots, to currently at 16 year pilots, with it speculated to be at 12 years by the end of next year. If this trend continues, one can easily calculate how long it will take for a new hire today to flow. I don't agree with the current projections by the Director of Flight Ops to be at 6 years, I do believe that if he really wants that to be the case, he can MAKE that happen. (That is where being wholly owned will help, if they need to, they can flow more pilots to make it more of an incentive)
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