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Old 09-01-2015 | 04:28 AM
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dalad
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
That's apples & oranges.

- Which maxes "first" is what controls whether you're maxing the elective deferral (the $18K) or the company limit (15% of $265K = $39,750). If you make large enough contributions, it'd be easy for a high-earner (>$265K) to contribute $18K before reaching the $265 limit--in which case the full deferral limit has been reached, and the company contributions will stop at the $53K (total) mark, with the excess coming as taxable income. Mostly a moot point, though, since either way the total tax-deferral (and thus total reduction to taxable income) is the same $53K.

- The $6K over-50 is independent of the other limits--an over-50 employee can add up to $6K to the total of his and/or the company's contributions without regard to the limits.

- Where you can limit your tax advantage (assuming your goal is to max out your $53K limit) is if you make too-large of a 401(a) contribution, thus forcing some of your company contribution to taxable income. This problem doesn't exist for anyone making over $233,333: their $18K deferred + their 15% company ($35K) = $53K, so the question of making a 401(a) contribution doesn't arise. Anyone making less than that $233,333 would need to make a 401(a) contribution to hit the $53K limit--and would therefore need to ensure they don't contribute any more than the difference between the limit and the pre-tax (elective + company). If they do, they forgo the tax deferral.

(This last point assumes that tax deferral is the prime goal. Different strategy altogether if one wants, say, to maximize Roth-type savings.)
Yep, I went over the 265K limit this month. 3 straight months averaging over 170 hours credit at 7ER A pay did it. I filled up the 401K and Catch up within a few$. I'm going to fill up with the PS in FEB instead of going the monthly route of contributing.