Originally Posted by md11freightdog

My question would be...if we send the MEC leadership and the NC packing, who in their right mind is going to want to replace them? Who is going to be willing to volunteered to be put against a wall and have verbal shots thrown at them by the pilots they are offering to help? Our pilots record of ALPA participation in nominations and elections have not exactly been stellar and I doubt there will be many volunteers lining up to participate in the next round of negotiations. Four years of hard work, and I find little gratitude on this forum for the work done and the gains made in the TA up to this point. While some may not agree that the gains were adequate, there ARE gains. While there was no A fund increase, the new hires will be kept in the program, which is basically unheard of anymore in this industry. No PBS, No messing with vacation, pay raises that keep us at the top of the industry (with AA) and a B fund that in 4 years will essentially match SWA 401k match (yes they have profit sharing, but we have a locked in A fund, which is essentially an annuity that would cost between $2-3M to purchase outright depending on age of retirement and survivor benefits.)

I disagree with the international deadhead giveback--it was merely a trade. Give up FC (which is going the way of the dodo bird anyway) and take fully lie flat BC seats (try Cathay--they are superb) and in addition get BC seats on intl deadheads over 2.5 hours. To eliminate the coach DH seats on Emirates from DXB to DEL or BOM is not a concession IMHO.

As a group, I do not think we have the leverage that some would think or wish for. The thought of the company not surviving peak without a signed TA is a pipe dream. For those working here December 2000 will recall the company's request for an additional 2 days per month of work so they could ramp up for the postal contract. The Union presented a proposal to management with multiple requests. Management denied the requests and continued on without the unions help. Guess what--they made it work. Same thing will happen here. Management, I believe, has put enough into this TA where they genuinely believe they can get 50% plus 1 vote. I am sure, however, they have a listed alternate, and are developing contingency plans as we speak in case the TA gets voted down.

Finally, what is the time value of money lost if we go back to the negotiating table? Time to put together a new NC, get the company to agree to a mtg schedule, work with the mediator, and hope like crazy that the next TA (which could easily be 12-24 months down the road) will have enough additional upside to compensate for the lost additional compensation.

I think the NC did the best they could over the past four years. Am I thrilled with every section...of course not. I, like most everyone else, would have liked to see some additional retirement improvements.

In conclusion, to the members of the NC (and those that read this entire post), I only have one thing to say....thank you.