Originally Posted by
AdiosMikeFox
You didn't mention it, but you used phraseology that implied that this is the solution. The Act is the only thing that requires that "no special treatment" be the rule, otherwise anything and everything is up for grabs, including a staple. The Act prevents that and is the only thing preventing a staple other than management "kindness" and what can be negotiated.
Apparently you unwittingly paraphrased the intent of the act in order to sound like your position was based on legal precedent, but I apologize. I was wrong. You just made it all up to sound like you knew what you were talking about.
Regardless, I have read much of the summarized Act and people always refer to "based on career expectation" as a reason for a junior crew member who might be say, holding a line, should be placed on a combined list ahead of a more senior pilot who is still on reserve, or jump in a flow queue ahead of someone else. The Act is much more complex than that and covers special circumstances (likely the 824 and possibly protected pilots would fall under this), longevity, category and status, so anyone thinking that simply shuffling non-Envoy pilots into a Envoy seniority list is going to disrupt these items needs to take a step back. However, the reverse is true, and if a merged carrier had a flow of their own ENY pilots may not be allowed to participate or take cuts.
TL;DR: Get a grip and don't listen to Eaglefly's predictions about seniority list integration between a fictional ENY/XXX merger because he doesn't know what he's talking about.
You keep using the term "Act" or "
The Act" ?
What on God's earth are you babbling about ?
It seems you may again be referring to
The McCaskill-Bond Amendment, (or statute) and if so, it is YOU that is absolutely clueless. Go read it.
That Amendments legislation born of the AA-TWA consolidation is a labor-protective provision enacted to define a methodology whereby two parties (airline) in a "covered transaction" agree to integrate seniority lists by provisions stipulated in as per
Allegheny-Mohawk sections 3 and 13. Section 3 describes a process of negotiation and if no agreement, section 13 provides for binding arbitration to settle the matter. That's it. It is in place to ensure a fair PROCESS, but makes no guarantees about a fair OUTCOME. What is a "covered transaction" ?
In a nutshell, that requires at least 50% transfer of the value, equity or assets of a carrier to another. News flash kid..............there are multiple abilities for AAG to strong-arm Envoy (or any other AAG regional) into capitulation to ensure a seamless integration of equality. What will Envoy look like when the last of the 824 go in perhaps 12-18 months depending on how aggressive AAG is about the timieline for whatever their plan ?
That's right, 40 E-175's (some not even on line yet) and a boatload of expendable 50-seaters. Suppose for example (and this is just ONE example), they offer your MEC two options.......A. agree to dilute YOUR flow provisions to include pilots from proposed integration carrier X for a complete merge or B. face the transfer of your E-175's including presently qualified pilots (somewhat like the old PAN Am did) and the liquidation of the remaining fleet and assets with only an offer of employment for the remainder of the unqualified pilots ?
Which do you want............bad or worse ?
You can be sure what your MEC will do.
Think that's far-fetched ?
Think again pal and that is simply ONE possible scenario available to AAG and guess what..........that would NOT covered by McCaskill-Bond.
You psycho-babble above is irrelevant and by thoughtlessly belching that, it tells me you are WAY out of your league in having a solid handle on what your future may hold. Stop thinking like you got it all figured out before you get blind-sided .............again.
It is my suggestion that anyone predicating their future at an AAG regional NOT listen to the irrelevant claims and information provided by the clearly misguided and uninformed.......unless that is, you also have no problem taking your seat in the bumpy ride of past history as well.