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Old 09-08-2015 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX1
We could be left looking at the same size deal 2 years from now, for the same money. We end up with the same duration due to the delay, but with less earnings and DC contributions over the same period.
I'm sorry but that simply isn't a good enough reason for me to support a contract that falls well short of what most believe to be reasonable expectations. These hypotheticals ignore every stated goal in negotiations, justifications for improvements, and the fact that the long term consequences of signing apply well after the six years. We have to be willing to accept some risk...

There needs to be a continued incentive for the physical and psychological strain of night hub turn ops. This is particularly important as we all know how optimized the schedules have become. Simply joining the majors, or being slightly ahead doesn't satisfy that requirement (especially considering how profitable FDX is by comparison).

WHY? Risk/Reward? I'd rather know the hand I was dealt than guess at one that may be dealt.
That's the same situation we were in for the last couple of years. How is this different than any other time we negotiate? It's unavoidable.

The attitude of passing an extremely marginal TA due to some perceived fear of failing to make improvements is short sighted, and only serves to severely weaken our already weak bargaining position.

I understand where you are coming from, I hear it on trips from some guys... I will say that I don't believe this is a rational behavior, as most guys supporting this seem ignorant of the TA and simply are tired, ready for it to be over with, and fearful of delaying a marginal improvement; they've run out of gas, as have some of our leadership.

Originally Posted by MaxKts
Too much "fuzzy" language introduced in this TA and the scheduling abuse fixes - we added penalties for their abuse. All we have done is prostituted ourselves out. It won't stop the abuse it will only cost the company a couple extra pesos. They don't care about the little extra it will cost - we have just given them permission to do what they want whenever they want - to me that is a huge QOL issue!
This 'fuzzy' language and ineffectual penalties should be very concerning. The company always has a long game with that fuzzy language.
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