Originally Posted by Denny Crane

The bolded statement is where I think you go wrong. IMO it does NOT concentrate on a small number of pilots. It affects the whole category the trips are pulled from. Some pilots will not get paid for the trips, all pilots in that particular category will have their seniority affected. Some of which will be assigned to reserve.

Denny

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Okay, I'll do the math.

• 81% of the total trips in my category for October are 4-days.
• 27% of the total trips in my category for October are 4-days with weekends off.

In October we have an 83 hour ALV. Let's say LCA comprise 10% of the Captains and all of them bid 4 4-day weekends off trips and all of them are doing OE.

• That means of the available 4-day weekends off trips, 51% of them are at risk of being pulled, and 38% of them will be pulled and unavailable to be awarded.
• So instead of 27% of the trips being 4-day trips with weekends off, now you only have 16%.

So in the real world mix, the few 3-day trips will probably be gone early, nearly half the 4-days with weekends off would be gone before bidding started and that leaves FOs south of say 10-20% short changed. And that's if FO #1 didn't bid his/her favorite trip only to have it pulled.

Then it affects 100% of the FOs and it will really hurt in December, November and July. I don't think anyone wants to see 1 trip they bid for removed before the award process begins, much less 8% of the trips they bid on magically removed. And of that 8%, a good portion if not all of them are choice trips such as Christmas off, weekends off, etc.

It goes back to that ALPA saying that if you mess with a pilots pay, they'll get mad at you, mess with their schedule and they'll kill you.