Originally Posted by
CloudSailor
Dude, WHAT are you talking about? That is the whole reason I would vote NO and hope that we are a strong majority, so that we do not live under this concessionary TA, nor the current CBA in need of improvement, for the next 10 years. The improvements we require, have been earned by record-breaking profits. Do you want to settle for this? It seems so. I do not.
Hypothetical questions about other CBAs are like asking "which airline, that has negotiated away their A-plan improvements, during record-breaking profits for 15+ years, would you rather fly for?, which airline has had the profits we have had? which airline has gained more efficiencies in the last 10 years than we have? which airline can afford a better TA than ours?".
Wife is home. Time to enjoy the weekend. 1100+ posts, it makes me sick to see that.
Good luck with the continuous search for your decision LAG. For those who are decided, have read the TA, and understand the concessions we are giving this tremendously profitable company, educate your colleagues.
Dude...you cannot honestly say this is a "concessionary contract." Ask Delta, American, United, et al. what a concessionary contract is.
Positives:
-We kept our A-fund.
-B-fund improvements.
-Kept the A-fund for new hires.
-Doubled new-hire pay.
-New hires at $100 per hour in FDA's.
-Kept out PBS.
-Kept the buy-up.
-Pay raises at the top of the industry.
-Pay for moving R-day.
-No late call for RB.
-VTO's have a say on what to do with vacation, etc.
-Second look for VTO inputs. No more bidding on trips that CIC's take.
-No involuntary conversions for R lines.
-Transparency for a multitude of areas...including VTO's.
-Proffering trips.
-Two looks at fares.
-Deviation banks that encompass 2 months.
-International override increase.
-4.a.2.b fixes.
-1 CH for 2 hours of CBT's.
-C/O hours in ITU go into M/U bank.
-Paid for training in current month.
-Extra bid period to use PMU.
-AM O/B blocks in after 1015 gets paid.
-Catering improvements.
-2 active reservations for deviation allowed.
-$$$ for cnx hotels.
-$$$ for upgrading economy fares.
-$150 vice $100 surface d/h allowed without fleet captain approval.
-$375 vice $100 for airport parking.
-Check-in to hotel 2 days prior...assuming you have the bank and at contract rate.
-LCA and Flex pay bumps.
-Extended in field now 36/84 vice 48/96.
-Night duty limits decreased by :30.
-Green and yellow status for R-days.
-Ability to see who's on reserve no matter whether you're on reserve or not.
-Swapping same trip footprint.
-Out of order R-day assignments now 60 hours vice 50 hours.
-Out of order assignments now use the reasonable man theory.
-Layover in other than your original city...gets you paid.
-DSA buyback...big hurdles to get this, but still a plus.
Negatives:
-6 week bid period...but, we asked for it?
-Lie flat seats.
-No hotel for less than 5 hours...but, have to have enough rooms available. I personally would rather sleep in the hub than go to a hotel...just me though.
-18 hour check-in for intercontinental.
-Hotel bank cap. For life? For the year?
-Passover pay. But...monthly training bids.
-8-24 relief on day side.
-Sleep cans on 767? Need FAA approval.
-No sub trip rejected within 4 hours of showtime. Have to "show your cards" early.
-No A-plan improvements.
Yup...very concessionary.
