Originally Posted by snippercr

You're just as quick to play the "salesman" card when people disagree with you...Or post anything about envoy. At all.

Your assumption about a pilot war is pretty extreme.

Take any other profession - teaching for example. A person is a teacher for 4 years and has 15 credit hours plus. They are paid on a grid similar to us: go to years of experience, go to credit hours plus and you get that schools contractual rate of pay. The following year they go to 5th year pay. Let's say enrollment declines and the neighborhood isnt as good as it once was. This teacher goes to another school - they come in with 5 years of work and their 15 credit hours plus. Their rate of pay is THAT schools grid for experience (5 years) and credit hours plus (15). They do not start over again. Is there a "Teacher war"? Well, there is competition - some schools are more desirable to work at than others. If it was up to some, they would rather teach in an affluent suburban school than Chicago Public School system.

Let's take a Mesa pilot for example today. They live in Chicago but after Mesa closed the chicago base, are forced to commute to IAH. Mesa has, as most would agree, some of the lowest rates of pay and work rules. As a result, coupled with commuting this pilot has pretty low QOL. Now, after 3 years he wishes to come to Envoy because the base, work rules and ability to NOT have to reset his rate of pay. He no longer commutes, actually gets a RAISE(3rd year Mesa is 32/hr, 3rd year Envoy is 37/hr) and has better QOL. Did this "harm" Mesa? Well, using your definition it did - because one less pilot at Mesa hurts their ability to staff their flying.

However, using your argument, a Mesa CA going over to United also hurts the industry and contributes to your pilot war.

I really cant see how one carrier offering the ability to bring in credit for experience "harms" the industry any more than it is now. Let's take the imaginary Mesa pilot for example. Has a wife and kids and a mortgage on a reasonable property. He wants to spend more time at home like when he was not commuting to IAH. However, under the status quo he would take a pay cut for 2 years. While his time at home is valuable, that doesnt pay the bills.

I honestly see offering credit for experience as being a great advancement to the regional industry and moving us more in line with all other fields out there.

But hey, if you need to call me a company man, salesman, cheerleader, etc...well, most people who know me would disagree. You wouldnt hurt my feelings calling me that.