Originally Posted by
snippercr
Just so I understand your argument - you are against a program where a pilot can go to an airline and bring credit with them for higher pay because that will create a "poaching war" where by the airline offering said program would poach pilots from other airlines. These other airlines would still have pilots there that would not want to leave but due to the spike in attrition, that airline would face loss of flying it cannot staff, shrink and ultimately stagnate the pilots there (no upgrade, no getting off reserve).
Yes. You know what ?
That has ALREADY occurred. Can you guess what airline has recently lost pilots to the point that they have been threatened with attrition (3000+ down to about 2100) and their union is now considering a scheme to REVERSE that which has occurred to them and shift that to OTHER carriers to PREVENT EXACTLY THAT IN THE FUTURE ?
Hint; Don't look too far.
Originally Posted by
snippercr
Couldn't the same be said about bonuses? Doesn't just about every airline right now offer a 5-15k signing bonus with Endeavor having a 20k/year retention bonus? These programs are designed to attract people to their airline - as you said, there isn't much of a pipeline of new pilots. Why were/are you not vocal about these programs?
Are these programs aimed at just attracting pilots in general or do they TARGET pilots at other regionals they know cannot be replaced thereby creating winners and losers and winning at the expense of others ?
Don't look now snip, but you're rationalizing again.
Originally Posted by
snippercr
Do you see the industry as being a better place if Envoy did NOT offer a program where by a pilot could bring part 121 credit for starting at a higher pay step?
I see the regional industry in peril and I see the unions involved becoming part of the problem and I see many of the pilots oblivious to past history and mistakes all too willing to repeat them. Reading posts like yours, it's all but certain you'll fly yourselves right up a canyon you can't climb out of. In all honesty, as an AA pilot it's in my best interests to see a strong AA regional network, including Envoy (within scope limits, of course), but I have little confidence with so many water mules and salesmen running around only interested in keeping their "crappy regional" as I hear the term so often afloat just long enough to get theirs. We ALL lose with that attitude and always will.
If you come to AA by 2020, I think you'll get to see that concept again when Parker plays the majority of us again like a tenor sax and we trade whatever we can for Delta rates. Problem is, we don't have much to trade except............well, now you know my predictions for 2020 and why I will end up joining the majority and regretfully become a salesmen too just like I state below my handle here !
Hope you're not too junior then as you'll be the minority compared to 11-12,000 geezers in their late 50's and 60's. Maybe then you'll finally understand the disease ravishing this profession when you almost certainly become one of the losers in that game should you win in this one. Like I said, sooner or later........the house ALWAYS wins.