Originally Posted by
billyho
Gamble??? I think it's even funny that we are being compared to Envoy. We know all about worn out planes and old worn out 50 seat 145s will be used as training wheels to get Piedmont's Jet Certificate up and going. The plan is 60 145's and more if we can staff. Honestly I see that easily changing to 175's before the end of next year. Just look around and see what's going on at a few of the Contract Carriers???
Piedmont isn't a Gamble because if you do come here and growth stops guess what??? Your flow will be much faster then Envoy's and definitely a bunch faster then PSA's. There's no Gamble here unless you mean us merging with Envoy would be a gamble. I would think that would be because it would screw up our flow time to American by merging.
Keep dreaming. You really think they are giving you our jets and setting up that whole program as training wheels just so they can start all over again and get bigger one's later? lol. You aren't getting 175's unless you get merged with Envoy. Why would they do everything, and spend all the $$$ to get them set up on our certificate, with the options placed here already after our initial 40.. then waste all that time/money all over again for Piedmont to get them too? Unless you guys plan on signing some PSA type backstabbing deal it isn't happening. Plus, have you seen the scope limitations AA is bumping up against for more 175's or 900's? Pretty much any more would be coming at the expense of something else..
and how exactly is your flow going to be "much" faster than Envoy's at only 4/5 month or whatever if your growth stops? Who cares if we are bigger, we flow a much larger number every month and our pilot group is getting smaller. The flow is pretty even..
Yeah, you are right.. we shouldn't compare Envoy to Piedmont. Envoy has an all jet fleet with over 2000 pilots still. Piedmont has around 400 pilots and ZERO jets transferred to date. Only promises.. AA has been delaying our transfers and awarding more flying to Envoy every month since we can actually staff it and are already current and qualified in the airplanes... not saying they won't "eventually" be transferred, with big delays.. but thinking you are getting 175's too is ridiculous.