I think what each one of us has to do is ask the question "What are my top four issues or deal breakers with this T/A? And we're they addressed to my satisfaction?" I think if each of us were honest we would have to say this contract falls woefully short of our expectations. The MEC is highlighting very small and inconsequential gains, gains that we have paid for with concessions. Sick time buy back and no improvement whatsoever in retirement are not improvements. The sick buy back is pennies on the dollar and will encourage folks to not use it, thus the company will be able to reduce manning in senior seats resulting in slower upgrades and progression for the junior guy. Being able to bid for training slots is nice but is it worth giving up Passover Pay? The penalty pay falls short on transitions in a big way. 1% bump in B fund is eaten up buy the added costs of healthcare. Retirement is a joke! Same amount when you retire as what it was when I got hired many, many years ago, just my buying power is way down. I didn't realize we were back to cost neutral negotiating. The company has been caught with their pants down! They are short and flights aren't going. We will never have this much influence again because the company will never allow itself to be put in this position again. We need to send this rag back,