Ok just had a friend in ATL text that the rumor about the noncontract employee pay raises will be announced tomorrow and it was put out by the ATL CPO. Apparently it was told to a pilot group at one of the roadshow meetings in AMS.

So the only other employee groups payrates that I can verify is the flight attendants. If they get a 14% raise they will be 20% above their pre-giveback rates. We are still about 18% below. Too funny. Must have been some money left on the table, or they don't ever expect to actually negotiate a new contract with us.