Originally Posted by
adspilot
You keep saying this will have a negative impact on other companies. Why can't you see the more likely possibility of those companies doing something to keep and attract more pilots? You really think this one small insignificent step will be the doom and gloom of certain regional carriers? From what I keep reading that is your whole argument.
You obviously don't get it, do you ?
First of all, there are virtually no street pilots, which is the whole point of luring pilots from elsewhere via a lateral move. Even your chief water salesman admits "staffing is the new currency" and thus the goal is for Envoy to raid others pilots via lateral pay offers as well as lure in what few street hires there are, so that Envoy wins. Considering that, it means others lose, but yes, then they too will be forced to act and likely in the near future, Envoy ALPA's scheme would fail anyway.
The "doom and gloom" may just end up being Envoy's, for without firing that first shot DIRECTLY at others, they won't return fire with a potentially fatal wound to Envoy.
Be careful for what you wish for.
Originally Posted by
adspilot
I don't think you are ever going to convince people that paying more experienced pilots more than a new CFI is a bad/immoral thing. It's just not going to happen.
Very possible. Since you think that way, it seems you've run your course with this discussion and perhaps it's time to stop annoying yourself. You can be sure I'll be watching whatever show Envoy ALPA begins and ultimately, just like in the past, I think eventually they'll have a meeting to say to themselves....."now what ?", and determine what new moves they can do to assist management with a problem they created.
Don't you find it kinda silly (actually disturbing) that your own union is essentially negotiating pay raises for pilots NOT ALREADY ON YOUR SENIORITY LIST ?
You think Parker's going to give YOU a raise along with pilots from other airlines ?
Think again, pal. Why would he need to do that, if THAT aspect doesn't bring more pilots to Envoy (if AAG really wants that anyway) ?
You know what.............."portability" among carriers IS a good idea for Envoy pilots because in the end, it may just be THEM that uses it and it that situation should AAG have fallen for this poorly thought out hair-brained idea, they'll have only provided a pathway for the junior pilots to bail more easily leaving the mid-level and senior suckers to twist in the wind as Envoy shrinks again.
Feel lucky ?
I hope so, because no one cares about a loser, at least at Envoy.
