There are a lot of people optimistic here, but honest about how things could improve and how painful stuff has been...it's a tradeoff and coming here, you need to have your eyes wide open. If a reasonable contract is signed and they improve some of the mx issues, this could be one of the best jobs around. We will never, ever make Delta money...and this isn't a dumping ground of sketchy pilots. Talked to an APD today and he was wicked impressed with the product that had gotten to him by the oral/type. Good stuff (some) is happening...it just doesn't effect lots of the senior guys/gals much...and the rumor mongering is ridiculous.