I am sort of with Mayday. Although crudely put we all approach this from our own perspectives. I suspect behind foxhunter's backbench rabble rousing is hope for a little retroactive A Plan bump. I agree 100% with the thought that the A Plan should have been fixed. 2006 and 2011 are the contracts that should have fixed them. There was an opportunity to fix it in this TA but the mob ruled. Hopefully, next time, if the vote is no or yes we will be willing to listen to all offers.