Originally Posted by
livetofly2123
Last time i posted this within an envoy thread and got no replies so sorry for starting a new one but I would like these questions answered.
Probably weren't answered because Envoy is in a very dynamic state of change. It's like asking PDT their future BEFORE they got the order to double their fleet with new jets.
Originally Posted by
livetofly2123
Alright, SO what is the current length of time one could expect to be on reserve?
Tough question because it can ba answered two ways. Do you want the current time on reserve, or the time a new hire should be on reserve?
Reserve is currently 4 years. However, FO's can not currently bid jet to jet so new hires will be getting the E175 shortly and it is a growing fleet type so time on reserve will be very short. Likewise, the expected time to upgrade is dropping rapidly and if their plans are accurate then if you are upgrading in roughly 2.5 years your time on reserve should be short.
Originally Posted by
livetofly2123
What are the call out times? short and long if you have it.
The entire reserve rules section is being rewritten currently, and with the staffing crunch hitting all the other carriers there is little interest in anything other than an industry leading RSV program. Other than that I think most would rather take it to the arbitrator since ALPA has rarely lost grievances over seniority violations.
Originally Posted by
livetofly2123
Is the 2.5 year upgrade and 6 year flow really going to be a reality.( and yes I have read this is expected to happen with the upcoming flows leaving.)
Their projections are based on only needing 15 new hires a month. Last month we did 28, and this month we're doing 13. 2.5 / 6 are just math problems, and if you take current numbers and extrapolate them, their numbers work. I'd expect some variation here and there; but they are banking on AA flow creating the drive to keep their regionals staffed without having to significantly raise pay. To do that it has to actually work. Thus far to date this year their numbers show that close to 70% of all AA new hires came from Envoy. In the last 3 years we sent 1/4 of our pilots to AA, and that was before the retirements really began to pick up which happens this year. Next year they are projecting at least 300 will flow to AA from Envoy. That is expected to continue.
It's a good time to be an ENY or PDT pilot.
Originally Posted by
livetofly2123
Any other information I might be want to hear about?
Right now I'd put PDT and ENY on your short list. My only concern at PDT would be the fleet type. I'm not a PDT guy, but I wouldn't be so excited about getting jets that everybody else is trying to park. The other guys are all parking them for a reason.