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Old 09-26-2015 | 10:29 AM
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eaglefly
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Originally Posted by Fopuddle
Same here. I really dont know what eaglefly's problem is. For someone who says he cares about envoy, he sure does a lot of damages to the airline and therefore to the employees. His constant *****ing is getting old.
I (eaglefly) am doing a lot of damage to Envoy ?

That's absurd. I've not impacted one passenger away from Envoy and almost certainly am not responsible for a single prospective pilot to choose or not to choose Envoy as an employer. Your claim is ridiculous and indicative of someone too emotional to think straight. Please list the "damages" I'm responsible for at Envoy............specific, known quantifiable damages, not hurt feelings or bruised egos. I dare you...............I double dare you !

The fact is that while pilots for the most part don't engage in the same level of discourse in the cockpits and perhaps even some degree in the crew rooms, that is not a good litmus to indicate the pulse of a carriers pilots in regard to their job satisfaction and QWL. The pilots arguably doing the most damage are those at Envoy telling it like it is or how they see it on EL and it ain't pretty. I'm just a more convenient messenger to shoot at, that's all. Envoy isn't alone in some pilots disputing others claims of X at their carrier, it's just it seems many (but not all) Envoy pilots have more self-serving goals they feel are threatened by that.

Your own union posts the summary above confirming internally amongst yourselves that management is falling short and implying morale is poor, yet at least one of them and a slew of others are here telling another story, i.e. that "the tide HAS turned" and "it's a good time to be an Envoy pilot".

One story internally amongst yourselves and another story externally to those looking for information. I'm sorry, but that's B.S. in my book.
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