Predictions don't count. They could close a base and there be a surge in people leaving. They could drop all the EMB 3/4/5s and go with the 170s and need a ton of people. They could keep expanding. I know they are picking up more flying and have less people now than we did when I was hired. Due to attrition. The average is looking to be about 30 a month and that hasn't slowed as of yet. Several of those are captains. I know a few guys that sit reserve captain on purpose because of the 4hr minimum pay and they get over 100hrs a month worth of pay because of it. There isn't anything to vote on. Q:How long are upgrades? A: About 2.25yrs. That is a fact. Can't base judgment on anything else. The one thing everyone agrees on is that you can't guess the industry. 2yrs from now when the surge ends on our end maybe JO will be out and mesa hiring like crazy with a nice contract and new management. The possibilities of what things will be like in the future are so many that just beginning to have a thought about them is making my ears bleed.

I don't know of any other place that is looking any better currently. It's not just about us either. You'd have to take into account the majors, 135, and private hires as well.