Originally Posted by Stok1

The nmb makes their decisions behind closed doors. You can only negotiate what your self worth will allow, the nmb will do whatever they want. The negotiating committee speaks for me. They are the ones closest to the situation and are doing whatever it is that can be done. They have already proposed the economic sections at the negotiating table. Now it's just a game of delay and enjoy the RLA via the NMB for as much as they will allow if you’re management. Coming down to g4 management's level of what they want; which is sub standard pay and thin to no work rules is not the way to go.

Union security, dues check off, work rules and pay commensurate to our counterparts and we wait till the nmb if ever releases us. Management holds all the cards for now. And I still don't want any watering down of our proposals. That may take years, then so be it we wait.

This idea that home every night is a quantifiable benefit that should be factored into the pay rates, thus we shouldn't be asking the most profitable airline in the world to pay us swa rates or better is ridiculous. In five years we may all be doing overnight trips, just like some do now on vbd, tdy, charters, etc.