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Old 09-29-2015 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
15/month and "frontloading" ? Okay, that's 180 next year, meaning 220 this year and if you include the 40 so far, that's another 180 over the 3 month period through the remainder of this year. Plus, that means they think only perhaps 6 pilots or so to leave Envoy each month for other carriers over that period. Those numbers don't add up there as new-hires dropped by half from August to September and any way you slice that cake over the next 15 months, their claimed goal appears unattainable considering AAG will not pump any more money into Envoy for long-term pilot recruitment.

Sounds like Envoy is indeed stumbling and indicative of simply being a convenient relief valve for the temporary backfiring of their ultimate plan. I understand the August number may have been inflated due to several CFI schools having pilots completing summer instructing tours and college courses only becoming available for Envoy at that point. As for improvements ?

Well, you've made multiple proposals that have for the most part been shot down by AAG already. What makes you think anything will be different once the carriers Envoy is currently assisting while THEY grow don't need Envoy assistance any longer and AAG is over that hump a year from now ?
Indeed, Envoy is stumbling along. However, its better than being kicked down hill which is what we have been doing the past 3 years.

And indeed, we serve as a filler airline ("relief" as you said) when others fail. We cover RAH flying in MIA and recently more so in ORD (several 9300 flights covering 4xxx flights), we covered Air Whiskey is DCA while they covered PSA, and we cover all the time XJT in DFW.

You are absolutely right that if THIS months hiring number is reflective of future hiring months, we will be short on the numbers required to make management's plan work - according to them.

However, can you tell me how many will be hired next month?

Just tell us, we'll believe you.

We believe you!
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