I'm not continuing a blissfully ignorant journey. But, I ask again, if the only improvements to a TA are in scope and LTD, are you going to vote yes or no? Scope and LTD are important, don't think I believe they can be tossed aside. But, if scope and ltd stayed the same in this next contract, it's not an automatic no vote from me, we've done just fine over the last five years with things as they are scope wise. I understand that could change, I understand that management COULD change things, but so far that hasn't happened. Im not gonna stand for saying my head is in the sand either, I know what could happen. But, I am saying a change to PBS or a loss of our four day's off would generate an automatic NO! Transition conflict, as long as it doesn't violate the four day off rule, I'll await judgement to see what is offered.