Herk, negotiations is certainly a 2 way street, but I argue the company already got what it needed - both in BK and now in this failed TA, by lowering our expectations to that of just holding on to what we have for dear life. I don't think protecting our work rules and asking for restoration of pay makes us greedy, I think that is exactly a fair deal considering what we will never get back. I understand the company's opener was quite ambitious, but we had a contract opener too, which was quote fair. Go back and take a look at how many of our contract opener goals we achieved... The answer is zero. We got not one thing we asked for. Now that's not what I call good faith negotiations