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Old 10-28-2015 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
You're not going to convince some people that you don't have to give something up for a pay raise. They attach that any gain must be accompanied by a loss. It's been indoctrinated. It's now a given, a way of life.

Even if your boss has increased his compensation by 700% and you're down by 20% plus TVM of that loss. You're pension is backed by the PBGC. Social Security is going broke. Medical premiums will sap your retirement savings.

We can't count on some of these pilots to walk.
I don't think that any gain "must" be accompanied by a loss. But there are two sides to any negotiations. I'm also happy with DALPA for a lot of stuff on the "perimeter" of the contract that they've fixed, even though the perpetually ****ed off class doesn't acknowledge it... or more likely just hasn't a clue.

For example this month I'm on reserve and have flown two separate 3-day trips that had just one leg of less than an hour, and that was my entire day. Both trips were worth 15.45 and both would have been worth 12 hrs and change for decades! Thanks to our negotiators securing the ADG and also applying for it to reserves, my (busy) month paid 88 hrs instead of the reserve guarantee of 80 that I would have gotten just a few years ago.

Concessions aren't always a one way street either Don't you think that the company has their guys saying "***? Two years ago we would have paid this guy 80 hrs and now we're paying him 88 for the same flying. What knucklehead negotiated that for the company?"
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