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Old 10-30-2015 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
The 600 you're talking about it was after we went to bankruptcy and they started giving planes away.

I understand your point, but since the protected pilots (anyone hired before 10/11/11) is an arbitration settlement, I can see AAG wanting to clean that part also.

Specially when most of the still FOs (5 to 8 yrs FOs), which will be better if they flow them before a 2yr PSA/PDT CA.

So I could see a SLI but a change in the flow agreement saying "after 824 and Protected Pilots, this is going to be the flow for everyone". Why do I say this? Simple...they increased the flow for the PP after the 40th e-175 arrives at envoy, 25 or 50% wichever is lower. Before it was only 30% of AA class.
I think the PP is easily modifiable in consolidation as a result of agreement. If leverage must be applied, Envoy ALPA has all but proved they can bark for a short period, but ultimatley will roll over and beg like a compliant pooch. Those provisions were simply butter on the biscuit to get a deal at Envoy for near-term stability. I think once the WO's are more balanced and/or they are consolidated, all pilots will be treated equally with whatever contractual flow benefit is negotiated and by seniority. The only wild card then is how any SLI is done in the cade of consolidation or absent that, equal fliw slices for all WO carriers. The end result is that in all likelyhood, any pilot who joins ANY AA WO now really cannot depend on ANY projection beyond the next 18 months or so.

You can if you want, but I think that's just a recipe for new frustration and disappointment. I do realize Mason's sales assumptions and proclomations sound intoxication, but it's rare that snake oil provides real venefit for those that buy it.......unless of course, it has a high alcohol content, which Mason's does not.
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