I tend to define PIC as being the A code. I know thats how FedEx and some other airlines define it so thats the only reason I do it that way. I disagree with not logging PIC while in the jump if you are the A code. We frequently fly augmented so I have a ton of other time but if I'm the A code I still call it PIC because even if I'm sleep I'm responsible and as soon as something happens the other two guys are getting me up to make a decision. As I said before the problem is still that the AF doesnt track "A-code" time and thats really what the airlines want to know....