Originally Posted by
emb145
I don't disagree with the retirement numbers you have posted or with the "current plans" Envoy/AAG management has for the pilot group.
However, you list many things above that haven't occurred yet, so currently, they aren't facts.
When Envoy's first pilot upgrades that has 7 years exactly at the company, the fact will be that Envoy "currently" has a 7 year upgrade.
When the flow throughs leaving are at 14 years seniority, the fact then will be 14 years to flow.
It's projected to go down, and it may do just that. You may revise the facts monthly or weekly when that happens. It just hasn't happened yet. Knowing AMR/AAG, I just don't bank on anything until it actually happens.
You know AMR, not AAG.
I will say this, so far AAG has done what they say it will happen. We voted no, they said they will focus us on DFW/ORD, now those are the 2 bases. They said they would give planes away, that happened also. We voted yes and they are saying the fastest way to get into AA is Envoy/PDT/PSA (in that order), seems to be true. They also say things will get better here if we agreed to their terms...
That's happening also.
I'm not saying everything is perfect or that they will screw us over eventually, but at the time being they've been doing what they said it was going to happen.