Originally Posted by
Cujo664
Wrong again. The flow never failed under Parker. Since AAG took over from the old AMR leadership, they have done exactly as they said they were going to do. We've had over 500 pilots flow from Envoy to AA since 2013. How is that a failure?
Well, back at EL during the Summer, everyone was in a flap on how in June Envoy sent no one and arbitrally they were required to send a minimum
each month percentage-wise
. What they did to make up for that or how many overall they hired is irrelevant. This is all semantics though as all I'm stating which has caused another bout of Envoysteria is that what happened yesterday or today doesn't guarantee tomorrow. Same for ANY AAG regional flow "projection". Supposedly the E-175 arrival is theoretically supposed to trigger 30/month metered to a minimum of 50%, yes ?
30/month is 360 and 50% of 750 is 375. But, last I read from Envoy management it was "200-300" which is short of the Mason dance from just weeks ago. Let's see what occurs in January. If it's only 20, that's not a good sign of 360-375 for 2016.
Originally Posted by
Cujo664
I'm sorry you spent a lot of your time at Eagle during the lost decade, but those days are over. Everybody is hiring and every single pilot currently on the Envoy list that wants to flow to AA will have the opportunity to do just that in the next few years. We are going to be having more upgrades than planned as well as some hulls stay around longer that initially thought as well. In addition, I think there is a very good chance that Envoy will be exercising options on the additional 90 E-175's (aka "The New Seven Five") as well. Kind of like having your cake and being able to eat it as well.
Upset ? Why would I be upset ? Although I wanted to get to AA sooner (who wouldn't), I did OK at Eagle during the "lost decade" driving to work for $80-110K/year and am fine with my existence now. I hope those junior to me do better then I did, but whether they do or not, it wont change my situation. I look forward, not backward and my points about Envoy and the flow is that NO ONE can say with any guarantees what occurs forward of today.
You planning to flow ?
Well, then I'd rethink trumpeting those 90 options for "The new seven five's". That will only SLOW your advancement at AA once you get there as guess what they will be replacing...................YOU. Since you'll be hideously junior, it will likely then be I that tells YOU how sorry I am you are upset.
Originally Posted by
Cujo664
Don't believe 2.5/6? It's a fact. I've already given you all of the numbers and how it's going to happen. Keep burying your head in the sand but if you want a job with AA, Envoy is your best bet.
You've convinced yourself of certainties in the future and considering your present existence, I can understand that. From what Envoy pilots say at EL, it's sounds like a pretty chaotic existence there now and is likely about to get worse when your MEC once again cow-tow's to management and gives them Satellite bases(s) while RSV goes unchanged or unimproved. As another used to say here...........
Good Luck !