Originally Posted by
tothebigblue
157-145s will remain at the end of 2017 per our union blast and mgmt. update.
honestly if other airlines can't staff what they are getting then I'd assume we'd be picking up the slack.
6 months till summer flying!
Just to clarify, the email said that management's INTENT was to extend the aircraft. Of course management would be happy to extend all the aircraft we used to have as well if only they could convince UAL to pay more for them then they would by sending them to TSA and Commutair instead.
Originally Posted by
Wynncore
The CRJ side has just approved a LOA (letter of agreement) that allows newly upgraded Capts to fly in the right seat for a determined amount of time after upgrade (at Capt pay) which will help lower our upgrade time, quality of life for reserve pilots has been improved with this LOA as well, our performance numbers are outstanding which *should* help us gain new flying in 2016...and finally, it appears that both L-XJT and L-ASA ALPA chapters are negotiating extensions to our current contracts and are moving away from negotiating a joint contract which has held us back for the better part of 4 years and is one of the sole reasons why this company has been struggling since.
Upgrade time on the CRJ side is approaching 9 years, but with the newly signed LOA that upgrades at least 96 per year...the strong likelihood of separate contract extensions for both sides of XJT which will define our costs and put to rest any unease that the major partners have with us...Upgrade time will likely drop to 6.5 years or less if growth can be obtained in 2016, this LOA works as it should and our contract with management is extended...not to mention the JetBlue program working as advertised.
Just some things to point out from the more pessimistic point of view: I would love to tell people to come here. But I can't in good conscience do it. So I want to point out the other side on a few things you mentioned.
First, this LOA. On the ERJ side, there is no restriction whatsoever for captains to fly as FOs, except that they get paid their captain rate. Management has been saying for almost a year that they will upgrade more FOs in order to artificially decrease upgrade times. Do you remember they said they would upgrade 20 pilots a month? Well, on the ERJ side, the last bid award came out and upgrade time has increased to almost 9 years!
Second, as for our good performance (good performance on the ERJ was the norm before being bought by Skywest by the way) has not paid off. And when seeing that operators like Commutair and RAH, which has recently had 95% CCF, and Mesa, which historically had bad performance, get more flying, I wouldn't put too much faith in that line from management.
Lastly, as for possibility getting separate contract extensions (which is not good to begin with) in order to define our costs and put to rest the supposed unease of mainline partners, when you look at all the regionals who have recently gained flying WITHOUT the help of a new contract defining their future costs (Mesa, RAH, TSA, Commutair, awac), I wouldn't put too much faith in that management line either.
Do I think it's possible that all the things you mentioned will happen? Sure, there is always a chance that for the first time since Skywest bought xjt, everything will start to fall in our favor. And I hope it does. But I wouldn't be that optimistic considering what management has/hasn't done in the past.
Originally Posted by
amcnd
Love how everyone bags SkyWest's "agreement" but they have never grossly violated it. Ya small dump trivial things that get resolved.. but the fact is SkyWest pilots earn or have earned top pay, and work rules.. I wouldn't stay away from them just because they are not ALPA..
Their work rules are not that good compared to xjt's contract. It would be a huge concession if we went to their pay and work rules. And they only get what they get because they ride the coat tails of other union pilot groups. Their management only gives them enough to keep them non-union. Most of them don't know how much more they have to work to make the same as us.
Originally Posted by
amcnd
That was one odd ball case. Every airline has that.. If SKW realy truly was bad. 100 a month wouldnt be going there and the senior guys would bail.. Fact is ASA will be a good place to be.. XJT will take the brunt of the stagnation..
These are cases in which the pilot was able to finance his own defense. Skywest had to pay him back tens of thousands just in legal costs. The ones who cannot afford to pay their own legal fees, just take it. I have friends there that have told me of stories of intimidation and harassment from their Cheif pilots if you don't tow the line (call in sick too much, can't make your commute more than once, question safety, question reason for being bypassed for upgrade, those are off the top of my head).
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