Originally Posted by
Dr Pepper
What I find even more sad is how many people say they voted yes but didnt really understand what they were voting for.
The last contract created a situation where the majority of the gains need to come to the junior ranks. Currently we have CA rates differences of 127-185/hr or 46%. Jetblue (since everyone loves to talk Jetblue)is 173-195 or 13%. You say we shouldnt put as much consideration in jr CA rates because they are transient. You also say we need a shorter more linear scale, which is it? By shortening the scale and making it more linear you are going to be giving the lions share to the junior guys.
As to your other point about a healthy top end I'm confused. If you dont want the larger gains on the junior side are you expecting the 50% of the pilot group on 3rd year pay or less to subsidize large gains at the top? For something they will not benefit from?
We need to bring everyone up including first year guys. Uniforms need to be paid for and training pay dropped. Many of the new hires have more experience than a lot of junior Captains here. They deserve to be paid as well.
1- we do need a scale that caps at 12 years. Junior captains here need a 35% raise at DOS to meet this made up good/bad mark of JetBlue. Top end captains need 6%. Having a scale that shows significant gains across the board (linear) would be more beneficial to the pilot group. So, seeing say close to a 20% increase across the board is more beneficial. Negotiating capital being purely spent on year 3-5 captains doesn't help the entire group
Yes a 12 year scale favors "junior" pilots, but keeping a 15 year scale pushes us further away from our peers while dangling the payoff carrot further into the future, which is a problem we have currently
2- no one needs or should subsidize pay raises. I'm purely saying you won't see substantial gains in the bottom end FO pay. I hope I'm wrong. I just purely am trying to get people to think objectively on a potential TA rather than dismiss it because it doesn't meet AA, or equally as dangerous say yes because they want immediate pay raises