Originally Posted by
eaglefly
Should pilots come to Envoy based on what YOU expect to happen ?
No, they should look at the numbers. The numbers point to movement and upgrades. Time to captain/time to flow? It's stupid to make predictions containing any sort of hard number, but things
will start moving, and soon.
Once again, it must be emphasized that the number of pilots who retire at AA does not necessarily equal the number of new pilots needed and thus a specific direct impact on future flows. I know it gives a warm and fuzzy to those cold and frazzled though.
Well no s h it, Sherlock. Nobody with any sense is claiming any hard numbers without acknowledging the barriers between those numbers and reality, but there are expected numbers based on statements made AAG officials themselves, not some forum flunky. We can expect flow based on those numbers, and OF COURSE people take it wit ha grain of salt knowing the history of the flow's stability.
That means Envoy will have to upgrade 800 in the following 1.5 years from January 2017 to mid 2018 to meet the 2.5 year upgrade for an Envoy new-hire of today. That math doesn't add up to me, but then again, I don't work for CLR or drink Envoy Kool-Aid like a famished water buffalo.
Also, one MEC rep said no flows to AA for December and he'd be surprised if more then 20 go in January. That sounds like a very tepid start to the Envotopian conga line you and others are trumpeting here.
Jesus, you really think everyone but you is an idiot and incapable of thinking for themselves and incapable of making their own judgements based on available information? That's all you do... Take loose approximations, repackage them as "facts", then proceed to tell everyone else they're idiots for not adhering to your made-up little reality when virtually EVERYONE in this forum uses CONDITIONAL LANGUAGE when stating their opinions about the flow. Virtually EVERYONE says they know some serious hurdles need to be cleared before the projected timelines for upgrade and flow at Envoy are met. You can't read, can you? Or, at least you only read what suits your personal narrative in order to fuel your need to hear yourself talk.