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Old 11-21-2015 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sailor
That's the best thing you can do for you and your family, it was the way you said it, it insulted pretty much every pilot working here including yourself.
Yeah, I could tell. When you all were at your regional airline, did it insult the lifers there as well as others seeking to get out just because you wanted to improve your financial situation and job security? You all just need to quit being so sensitive.
Not saying it is a bad place to be at all, it is actually a good place with good people. But when you compare what is being negotiated and what other airlines are getting, it starts to have diminishing returns by staying and working here unless we are compensated competitively with our peers. You all are smart, run the numbers in retirement alone and look at the difference. Many of you that where insulted are in your early 30's. Keep in mind that you need anywhere from $300k-$1,000,000 at retirement just for healthcare issues. After that you are going to need your retirement money to live off of. A 9% match is going to be a struggle to get you there.
When I jump seat offline and other pilots cringe about Spirit and pay rates, I don't get all upset like many on here do about being "insulted" I sit and completely agree with them it needs a lot of work to bring us up to industry standards. With what I have been hearing, we are still going to be discounted. Now do we suck it up to get a contract right away or do we fight for three to five years for better pay and benefits and give up those years of increased compensation?