Originally Posted by Probe

If we vote "yes", we get some good stuff that we are otherwise not entitled to .

The company gets some good stuff, that will help us keep some very, very, very lucrative routes. For the company, and US!

If we vote "no". We get squat. The company outsources LAX to SYD to Air NZ. We complain a lot about it. In 2019, we are still getting 2016 pay rates. ALPA is telling us how screwed up the company is for not negotiating in good faith. 2020, we get a new contract, 4 years late. No retro.

"Yes" is a win win.