Originally Posted by
Qotsaautopilot
I'm not too honest enough to admit I got the AA parity clause wrong.
Point still stands that if united extension offer is anything close to what's been posted, and delta voting down raises, sw voting down raises (with scope givebacks so they got it right for sure), JetBlue in negotiations, and virgin opening, there is absolutely no reason to lock into today's middle of the pack. If we do we look like a bunch of coat tail riding freeloaders doing nothing to improve the profession today. And a year from now we will have the same or worse pay disparity as we have today only difference being we will have years left before we can even negotiate again.
You're bringing Jetblue and Virgins opener talks into your decision to vote down a TA? Talk to southwest pilots. Yes their contract had some raises but it was loaded with other givebacks. If you think Delta management is going to hand over the farm now you're delusional. They are going to play hardball because if they cave and give them a better deal it sets the precedence to automatically begin voting the first offer down since something better will come on the 2nd deal. Don't forget that was the first TA delta pilots have ever rejected and it was followed by a total change in their representatives and NC.
Why Do you automatically think the economy or industry is going to be in a much better position in 2-5 years from now? We are already almost 8 years removed from the recession. Another will occur it's just a matter of time. Another fallacy is to blindly assume our management is going to hand over raises at what "may come" of 3 legacy airlines talks. It's as blatantly wrong as your assumption they care if you're trying to leave