Originally Posted by
mike734
I'm addressing the OP. He said the captain insisted on getting a SALUTE. Like I said, TOTD, IF IF IF the captain insisted on an actual salute. I too can't see the tug or tow bar or have know if the NWS pin has been pulled unless I get a wave off. Most of the time it's a wave from the guy holding the pin as he walks away. Some guys will actually salute to which I usually acknowledge with a wave.
If Delta SOP is to require the ramper to stand at attention and SALUTE the captain, then I nominate Delta as TOTD.
At AA we also need an actual salute...woudn't you think if there's any question that its much easier to have someone just run out and give the hand gesture and allow everyone to continue according to SOP? Don't know what alternative you would have him do...have the guy plug the headset back in and talk? It's just a salute, for brevity purposes and legalese, not "holier than thou."
Guideman — Provide salute, indicating the area is clear.
After Start:
After ground equipment is clear, the captain has announced “I
have a salute”, and engine(s) are stabilized.