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Old 11-25-2015 | 11:01 AM
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TurbineTime
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
There is no lying, kid. Only your warped perception of things.

I know it sucks working for one of the two worst Regionals on earth, but you don't need to project your frustrations on others.

What would you know about Reserve rules? What you hear online? That's hilarious. Tell us how Reserve at your airline works.

News flash: Envoy doesn't have to pass your "eye test". You don't need to worry about it at all, actually. But lets see you be so smug throughout 2016 as everything we talk about here materializes, including but not limited to returned flying, increased upgrades, and over 300 pilots flowing by the end of the year.

Good luck getting hired at Frontier, or Spirit, or one of the other LCCs. People who aren't dumb enough to fall for Mesa's or Republic's gimmicks will have a no-interview flow to AA while people like you are still paying big bucks out of pocket to attend job fairs just for the privilege of paying for your own hotel room during training at Frontier.

Yeah, I would be mad too.
Ok. We'll keep waiting around for 2016 for all of your wild fantasies to come true.

While were waiting, new hires at republic will make more in their first year than a 5th year FO at Envoy. Thats not a gimmick, unlike your precious flow. That will pay your bills, your flow won't. People who need the flow to work are those who wouldn't get hired any other way, not the other way around.

They will also upgrade faster, have better reserve rules, have better bases, and once again, SIGNIFICANTLY better pay.

On one point though, you are correct. Envoy doesn't have to pass my eye test, I am already employed elsewhere. It does however have to pass the eye test of the potential new hires, who are currently seeing envoy and your promises for what they are, and taking a pass.