Originally Posted by
FirstClass
I think what he is saying is you currently have FO's on reserve for 4+ years. That being the case there is no way you can be a Captain at Envoy in 2.5 years if you are still an FO on reserve, let alone flow to American in 5 years if you are just finishing being an FO on reserve.
Unless they are going to let FO's flow above Captains to American, I don't see any other way to flow to American unless its in the following order...
FO Reserve +4 years
FO Line Holder +X years
Capt Reserve +X years
Capt Line Holder +X years
Flow to American +X years (currently 16 years)
Granted I don't know all the numbers, but it seems clear you can't flow at year 5 like Cujo promised and maybe that is why he was let go?
In any event, PSA is hiring alot and I would have no problem with working with him.
I shouldn't even respond...but here goes:
The upgrade times and flow are for NEW HIRES...PEOPLE HIRED TODAY. Not for people already on property.
Current Reserve time is based on what has happened at Envoy in THE PAST....specifically the past 2 years. 2013/2014. In any case, it is only in ORD that FOs are still on Reserve after 4 years.
Otherwise, many people bid Reserve ON PURPOSE for increased QOL and better schedules. Now why would people do that if Reserve was so horrible?
I know math is hard, but you are trying to reverse rationalize this any way you can. Anyone hired at Envoy from this year forward will NOT experience the same stagnation that people hired in the past have. Throw all the X numbers around you want. But there is no point...you guys want to argue about crap which has already been decided by American Airlines management and you think you know more than they do. I'm done. Enjoy your 5 flows/month over at PSA. Hope you can hold out for 20+ years.